The future of Indo-Nepal treaty and its impact on Indian Gorkhas?

By D B Rai  (From Darjeeling Times)

Nepal communist party chief Puspa Kamal Dahal aka Prachand has raised the issue of the review of historical treaty, 1950 Indo –Nepal treaty, rippling the political wave in India and Nepal.

In his interview in Devils Advocate, a popular programme of NDTV, the top Maoist leader said, “Our people have put forward this concern that they feel that the treaty lacks in equality and that it is not beneficial for Nepal. We thus want to review all the points of the 1950 treaty and want to revise it according to new necessity.”

The Indo Nepal treaty, a treaty of peace and friendship signed at Katmandu on 31 July 1950 between Chandreshwar Prasad Narain Sing, ambassador of India in Nepal on behalf of government of India and Mohan Shamsher Jang Bahadur Rana, Maharaja, Prime minister and supreme commander in chief of Nepal has ten articles that describes the condition of the friendship of both countries. Now-a-days, it has become a debatable issue in both countries, India and Nepal.

Its impact among Indian origin Gorkhas

The issue of the abrogation of the treaty has brought reaction among Indian Nepali/Gorkha, too. Most of the Indian Gorkhas feel that 1950 is the stain for them as 1950 treaty’s article ‘7’ has not clearly mentioned about the status of Indian origin Gorkha/Nepali.

The treaty’s article  ‘7’ reads:” the government of India and Nepal agree to grant , on a reciprocal basis , to the nationals  of one county in the  territories of the other  the same privileges in  the matter of residence, ownership of  property, participation in trade and commerce, movement and other privileges of  a similar nature”

The Gorkhas feel basing on this very treaty they are alleged of being migrants of Nepal. Mr. R.B.Rai, ex-M.P. and a veteran leader of Darjeeling also says the treaty has become the weapon for them to assault on Indian origin Gorkhas. On the issue of revision of treaty, he further said, though it is India and Nepal’s political business, the issue touches the Indian Gorkha also. He also wants there should be abrogation of treaty thereby making effective mechanism to check the influx of foreign Nepalese in India.” If such system were made, there will be record of the population of Gorkhas of Indian origin and Nepali who come from Nepal. This record will also be an evidence for us being Indian origin and tomorrow the day will not come to be called migrants by anybody.”

 Gorkha  Jana Muckti Morcha chief Mr. Bimal Gurung also agrees that there should be revision of 1950 treaty but he didn’t  clarify the reason as to why it should be reviewed. He said his party hasn’t taken any decision on it yet to speak on it. 
However, Madan Tamang, one of the veteran leaders of Hill, has otherwise views. He said the revision of 1950 treaty has nothing to do with Indian Gorkha. “Our citizenships (the citizenship of Indian Gorkhas) are never challenged by anybody in India. So there is not any interest for us to talk about the treaty” he said adding that only Nepal origin Nepalese who come here for labour and drudgery are humiliated by calling them ‘Migrants.’. 

On the abrogation of treaty, he holds the view that this would rather hamper the economy of Indian Gorkhas who are more than fifty thousand in numbers in Nepal working in different schools. They have to come back to India quitting their job, if there was abrogation of treaty.

Similarly, in the same line of Madan Tamang, Mr. R.Moktan , an advocate of Sikkim –Darjeeling merger, opines the abrogation of Indo- Nepal treaty is not at all concerned with identity issue of Indian Gorkhas. For, Indian Gorkhas have already started clamoring Gorkhaland issue which will be a strong identity for Gorkhas in the country ultimately, he says.

On the other hand, some Non-Gorkha people are also demanding the abrogation of treaty Mr. Ashru Kumar Sikdar, an academician and writer of Siliguri, said the Indo- Nepal border is being used by people from the neighboring country to settle in several areas of Darjeeling district, particularly Siliguri. The only way to control this problem is to abrogate the Indo-Nepal Friendship treaty immediately.”

However, Mr. Mahendra P. Lama, a prominent intellectual of South Asia and vice chancellor of Sikkim University, thinks that the abrogation of the Indo Nepal treaty is the demand of the some elite section of Nepalese.

He writes: “There has been a protracted demand by some sections of the Nepalese elite for abrogation of the treaty on various grounds. They have used this to demonstrate India’s ‘big brotherly’ attitude and attempt to erode and usurp sovereignty.”

On the demand of Indian Gorkha of abrogation of treaty he says: Interestingly the 10 million –odd Indian Gorkha living in various parts of India have also been demanding the abrogation of the treaty and the closing down of the border. This is because their identity is being diluted by the floating population from Nepal who come to India for livelihood. As a result, Indian Gorkha are dubbed as foreigners in states like Assam, Manipur and Meghalaya.

He also suggests three critical options in determining the future of this treaty. First, let this treaty be drastically rewritten, incorporating likely future needs, second, this treaty could be abrogated forthwith after a kind of referendum, and third is, this treaty could be abrogated and several new agreement like the modalities of open border, movement of people, recruitment of Nepalese citizens in the Indian army and management of non-traditional security issues could be signed.

The prospects of abrogation of the treaty

It is just as well for Nepal that Prachand at least could dare to raise the issue which is lying dormant for more than 58 years not being discussed. But given the political situation of Nepal and other factors, there is least possibility of revision in the treaty

They (Maoist) know the abrogation of the treaty would not be beneficial to Nepal for her sustainable economy. It may be recalled in 1990 when India clamped down the blockade of fuel for Nepal, there was hue and cry in Nepal. Nepal tried to bring the fuel from China, but could not be successful as the cost of the fuel was double that of India.

Not only this, the age-old cultural, religious and emotional ties between the people of the two nations would also be affected. Mr. Lama says: given the very nature, topography and age-old cross border exchanges and interactions the closing down of borders-like with Pakistan-will be impossible, untenable and impractical. It could, at most, be regulated through substantial increase in the number of official crossing points to help make the transition more people friendly.
Besides, Madhesi Jana Adhikar Forum, a strong ally of Prachand government is said to have not in favour of abrogation of treaty and influence of pro-Indian lobby. Because of that also Prachand can’t force India to abrogate the treaty as this will create a fear of losing of MJF support for Prachand government

Maoist has just raise the issue to keep happy anti-Indian lobby to maintain their political clouts upon them and to bargain with India to some extent for their political mileage.

But India has agreed to review the treaty. During the India visit of Upendra Yadav, foreign minister of Nepal, the Indian Foreign Minister Mr. Pranab Mukherjee told him India is ready to sit with Nepal and review 1950 Indo Nepal Friendship Treaty.

India agreed for the reason that she must have felt, Nepal always make 1950 treaty an issue alleging the treaty is completely in favour of India and she wants to make Nepal another Bhutan with the support of the treaty. So in response of it also and to bring back the good image of India in Nepal, India might have accepted the proposal of Nepal. 

Therefore, the corollary is of course there will be bout of roundtable talks between the leaders of Delhi and Katmandu, but the treaty will remain in status-quo. At best, the treaty may end up in just construction of some schools and hospital in the name of India –Nepal friendship treaty; that’s all.

  
*Mr.D.B.Rai ‘anoop’
(The writer is a freelance journalist by profession and can be reached at dbrai2007@gmail.com)
 

14 Responses

  1. […] At best, the treaty may end up in just construction of some schools and hospital in the name of India –Nepal friendship treaty; that’s all. *Mr.DBRai ‘anoop’. More […]

  2. Gorkland or District Darjeeling and surrounding Nepalese occupied area would be better to be 76th district of Nepal. If not be part of Sikkim – better than being part of West Bengal

    Thank you
    N-epal.com – we welcome you Gorkhaland to be part of N-epal

  3. The treaty needs to recognize the fact that nepal, being a smaller nation in size and population, run the risk of the indigeneous nepalese being reduced to minority by migrant Indian (bangladeshis, who have come in india enmass) as soon as nepal beings to make modest progress and the quality of life beings to register apparent improvement. The plight of indigeneous north east people is in front of all of us, to learn how democracy could fail to protect a country/region/state from being taken over by changing the demography of the populace. I am quite sure that if people are not educated now, and if no steps are taken now, then in comming years nepal will be taken over by Indian/bangladeshi nationals. The face of nepalese society will be changed for good or bad, for ever. So, I strongly feel that

  4. the treaty should be modifed with the above fact in mind. Reciprocity does not mean that an elephant and horse should be given same burden to carry, or that elephant and horse be given same amount of food. Probably some thing as- people of indian origin can move in and out of nepal as long as their population in lower than 10% of total nepalese population. over that, they have to apply for visa as other nation people. or, something like- india and nepal people can freely move across the borders but under no condition they can apply for citizenship of the other country or own property over some limit…

    not sure now, but somethign that will protect the national identity of nepal.

  5. and ofcourse to protect indian interest, some checks that do not allow nepalese territory to be used as base to carry out operations against india be put in place. things as closer working of security agencies etc….

  6. GORKHAS ARE MIGRATED FROM NEPAL

    In view of the misunderstandings and confusions which are being deliberately created regarding the history of the region and the migratory movements, we are setting out below a brief outline of the history based on official sources.

    Historically, what is known as the district of Darjeeling today was parts of two kingdoms during the pre-British period – the kingdoms of Sikkim and Bhutan. Following wars and treaties signed with these two kingdoms, this territory came under the control of the British Empire in India. This territory was not a part of Nepal when the British took over, and, therefore, cannot be considered as part of the ‘ceded territories’ of Nepal, as is being claimed by GNLF.

    The present territory of Darjeeling came under British occupation during the nineteenth century in three stages. In 1835, by a deed of grants signed on 1st February, the Raja of Sikkim ceded a portion of the hills to the British to help them to set up a sanatorium. This area covered all the land south of the Great Rangit river, east of Balasan, Kahel and Little Rangit rivers and west of the Rangnu and Mahananda rivers. The second stage followed war with Sikkim, which resulted in the annexation of ‘Sikkim Morang’ or ‘Terai’ at the foot of the hills, and a portion of the Sikkim hills bounded by the Rammam rivers on the north, by the Great Rangit and the Teesta on the east and by the Nepal frontier on the west. This area too had always been under Sikkim, excepting the Morang or Terai in the foothills which was for a time (1788-1816) conquered and ruled by Nepal, but, following the war with Nepal during (1814-1816) this tract was ceded to the British Government which in turn returned it to the Raja of Sikkim. The third stage was marked by a war between British India and Bhutan, which led in 1864 to the annexation of the hill tract to the east of Teesta, west of Ne-chu and De-chu rivers and south of Sikkim.

    In other words, the present territory of Darjeeling historically belonged to Sikkim and Bhutan, and was included in India following wars and agreement with these two countries. Only the Terai part of the territory (and not the hills) was for a time conquered by Nepal from Sikkim, but was then returned to Sikkim in 1816, long before the district of Darjeeling took shape. As for the hill areas of the present day Darjeeling, where the Nepali-speaking population constitute the overwhelming majority, there is no recorded historical evidence of this ever being part of Nepal.

    Furthermore, the native population of the district did not comprise of the population of Nepali origin. Both the Nepalis and the Bengalis came to the territory as immigrants following the development of the tea industry and the expansion of the administration. To quote the Bengal district Gazetteers, authors by Arthur Jules Dash and published by the British government of Bengal (1947 edition, Darjeeling part, Chapter III):

    “When the East India Company in 1835 first acquired the nucleus of the Darjeeling district from the Raja of Sikkim, it was almost entirely under forest and practically inhabited… this hill tract of 138 square miles contained a population of 100”.

    “The decision of the Company to develop Darjeeling as a hill resort gave the opportunity to neighbouring peoples to immigrate and take part in the development. The original inhabitants, probably Lepchas, were rapidly outnumbered by settlers from Nepal and Sikkim. By the year 1850, Dr. Campbell, the first superintendent reported that the number of inhabitants had risen to 10,000. The rapid influx was noted by Sir Joseph Hocker when he visited Darjeeling about that time. When in 1869 a rough census was taken of the inhabitants of this tract, the total was found to be over 22,000.”

    Thus it was overwhelmingly a forest land by 1869, with a population of not more than 22,000. However by the time of the first census of India in 1872, the population had rapidly increased to 94,712, and by the turn of the century, in 1901 it was 2,49,117. This increase was mainly connected with the development of tea industry and the opportunities for wasteland cultivation. The tea plantations, beginning in the 1850s, increased to 74 estates covering 14,000 acres in 1872, 153 estates and 30,000 acres in 1881, and 177 estates and 45,000 acres in 1891. While the labourers for the tea estates in the Terai plains were mostly tribals from Bihar, in the hills the great majority of the workers were from Nepal. Once the tea industry developed, this led to further economic activities and created demand for more immigrants, many of whom now took to agriculture. The migration from Nepal continued in subsequent years. Even in 1931, out of a total population of 3,19,635, there were 59,016 had come from Nepal, in addition to the vast number of offsprings from the earlier waves of migration from Nepal, who constituted the majority, By 1941, 86.8 per cent of the population in the three hill sub-divisions on Darjeeling were Nepali-speaking, while other hillmen and scheduled castes constituted another 8.1 per cent.

    To quote from W. W. Hunter’s authoritative account (A Statistical Account of Bengal, Volume X, London, 1876);

    “The Lepchas are considered to be the aboriginal inhabitants of the hilly portion of the district. At all events they are the first known occupiers of this tract and of independent Sikkim.”

    Regarding the Nepalis, who constituted 34 per cent of the population of the district by 1876, while the majority of the populations in the district were non-Nepaliese, Hunter’s account stated:

    “The Nepalise, who form 34 per cent of the population of the district, are all immigrants from the state of Nepal to the westward. They are a pushing, thriving race, and the Deputy Commissioner is of opinion that they will in time occupy the whole district.”

    According to Hunter, even by 1876, “the population of the district is entirely rural,” and even Darjeeling and Kurseong had populations less than 5,000. But in subsequent years the population of Darjeeling grew, thanks to the support given by the British as a health resort for the Europeans, from 3,157 in 1872 to 7,018 in 1881; 14,145 in 1891, and 16,924 in 1901.

    This historical account is given to make the point that the development of the hill area of Darjeeling has been largely the outcome of activities relating to tea and tourist industries over the past one hundred years or so, before which it was sparsely populated, and the people of Nepali origin constituting the vast majority of the population there now came as immigrants from Nepal. There is, therefore, no historical validity in claiming this as a part of the territory ceded by the Government of Nepal to the British Empire in India.

    Nor is this proper to view the growth of population in the hills in isolation from the developments in the plains, where too the forest lands were cleared to set up plantations and migrant labourers were brought in for work in tea gardens and associated activities. As in the case of Darjeeling hills, the towns in Jalpaiguri and Siliguri sub-division largely owe their origin to tea industry, but whereas in Darjeeling the migrant labourers were mostly from Nepal, in the plains they were mostly recruited from the tribal areas of Bihar. In addition the Bengalis were brought in for clerical and administrative work and for various professional activities. After the partition of the country, in 1947, a large number of refugees from East Pakistan came to this area.

    Until the recent happenings, the four major communities in the hills and plains of Darjeeling district – the Nepalis, the Tribals, the Bengalis, and the original inhabitants (Mech, Rajbansi, Lepcha, Bhutia etc.) – lived peacefully and amicably. There had been no instance of any major communal tension between these communities, and the law and order situation was normal. Nor had there been instances of serious confrontation between a section of the population and the police and civil authorities.

  7. Question OF CITIZENSHIP , MAHANEPAL/GORKHALAND:
    Darjeeling was not a Nepalese territory. Before 1947, that district was much smaller than what it is today; British used to use that only for their sanitariums and tea gardens. There were not Nepalese much, but only Bhutias and Lepchas and some Tibetans. Nepalese came after Nehru made another blunder to sign Indo-Nepal Treaty of 1950. Nepalese came after that in millions, particularly when in 1980s Nehru’s grandson Rajeev Gandhi made another blunder to create Darjeeling autonomous area, giving total control of the hills to the Nepalese. All retired Nepalese soldiers were allowed to settle down in Darjeeling. Now Nepalese do not allow other non-Nepalese to live in Darjeeling District and they are now expanding their new Nepal within India by demanding the whole of North Bengal. It is really a scandal that CPI (M) chief minister does not know administration; he is not taking action against these Nepalese, but allows them to create a total lawlessness situation in the North Bengal.

    Prachanda wants to change the Indo-Nepal Treaty of 1950. Excellent. It has to start with the issue of the people. Nepalese who cannot prove that their ancestors used to live in India before 1950 must get Nepalese passports? That includes every part of India, Sikkim Darjeeling, Kumaun, and North Bihar etc. In that case there will be very few Indian Nepalese in Darjeeling. Most of the Nepalese in West Bengal, Sikkim are foreigners, i.e., those who came after 1950. They are not Indian by any means. Nepalese or gorkhas from Nepal cannot be claimed as Indian because Nepal is a separate country. Example is there. Yes, Pawan Chamling is a Nepalese but not an Indian, his ancestors came from Nepal. Baichung Bhutia is very proud to be a Bhutanese, he has never claimed that he is an Indian. Nepalese coming from Nepal has no claim at all; they are foreigners. So Nepalese/gurkhas cannot demand a separate state within India for the Nepalese/gurkhas communities. Maoism is much more dangerous than anything, as they believe in mindless violence, which has destroyed Nepal. That is the reason all Nepalese/gurkhas are coming to India. India should follow Bhutan and expel all Nepalese/gurkhas from India and cancel this defunct Indo-Nepal treaty of 1950. This is not racism, but a question of citizenship. Nepalese cannot be Indian.

    LOOTS OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS:
    All the money given to the Darjeeling Hill Council, over the last 20 years, were stolen by the very people who are now demanding Gurkhaland, because they do not want any investigations on their theft. This is the character of the leaders of the Gurkhas. Bimal Guring, the current leader of the Gurkhas was a truck driver, but now he is a Millionaire. Subhas Ghising was a primary school teacher, now he is a Billionaire. They have stolen all development fund meant for the Darjeeling Hill Council over the last 20 years. This is the true face of the Gurkhas. The current demand for Gorkhaland has started after the West Bengal government was about to appoint an auditor to investigate who has stolen the money (more than Rs.5000 Crores) given to the Darjeeling Hill Council. Immediately Subhas Ghessing said, in that case they will start the Gorkhaland movement again. Then his assistant Bimal Gurung started this current trouble, as he was also involved in that massive theft. There should be CBI investigation about this money and must identify the culprits irrespective of the threat of violence from GJJM.

    Darjeeling Hill is not a part of Nepal. Nepalese/gurkhas of Nepal has no right to create trouble in a foreign country. There are lots of Pakistanis, Gujarati, and Sikhs in Britain. There is lots of Turkish in Germany. There are lots of Punjabis in Canada. There are millions of Chinese in Australia. Do they dare to demand separate states for them?

    Nepal is now controlled by the most violent people, Maoists, They are demanding MAHA NEPAL and they want to destroy India, as that would please their master China. They want to expand Nepal with the help of Bimal Gurung and North Bengal is the first target.

  8. beak on online,
    1. Baichung Bhutia is not Bhutanese. He is Sikkimese. If you check the scheduled tribes list, you will find Bhutias on the top. By definition, schedule tribes list comprises of tribals i.e. indegeneous people, i.e. the original inhabitants of the region, who were displaced by other migrants, to be more specific aryan origin people. Now, if the constitution of India has classified Baichung Bhutia as indegenious person, your declaring him non Indian is either your lack of knowledge, or you disrespecting Indian constitution and calling them wrong. For your kind information, Bhutias have been residing in Sikkim long before Sikkim ever became part of India.

    Your attitude at declaring indegeneous people as alien, just because they do not look like you, is one of the reasons why Gorkhaland is being demanded. To get an identity.

    2. Further more, if you will check on the facts you will come to know that the entire mountain ranges and the adjoining terai area most of which falls withhin Indian map was originally inhabited by Gorkhas/Gurkhas (Kirats). Infact, the aread around and including darjeeling was part of ancient Kirat kingdom by the name of Bijayapur. This is long before your ancestors ever set foot on the part of land being discussed. Infact, even now, people like you who are opposing creation of Gorkhaland state, mostly do not live there, neither are your fortunes tied up with the land. But, still want to keep control over it, retain it as part of west bengal. Why? just to make you feel big.

    3. Yes, Nepal is a separate country. It is because when your kings were giving up on their motherland/Hindustan/Bharat, the kings of nepal kept fighting and to the credit of this small nation, retained their freedom. Infact, Bhimsen Thapa, the then prime minister of nepal was the only person to try to get a South Asian coalition against the East India company.

    4. What you call north bengal, is north bengal by just a quirk of fate. It should better have been part of Assam, or Sikkim, or best a separate state. There is nothing bengali about north bengal. Part of India, yes, but bengal, no. And that is what people are asking for, spearation from West Bengal and not from India.

    5. The demand for separate state of Gorkhaland is rooted basically in people’s fight for identity and progress. Why should the people of north bengal not want to ceede from west bengal? you do not seem to like us, you consider us outsiders. We let you lead/govern our region, but you undertook no development. You were busy with your issues only and totally forgot us. Now, it is time we took control in our hands, and try to make life better for ourselves. Afterall, dont, every one have righ to happiness! We are not asking you to give us chance to govern you, only chance to govern ourselves ‘swaraj, mera janam sidha adhikaar hai’ (Lok Manya Tilak). You can not deny us that.

    6. I can go on and on strengthening case for separate Gorkhaland. But I will have to conclude here because of time constraints, but before that I will say this-
    a. There aren’t millions of Chinese in Australia, it is not even a million, infact it is around 700,000.
    b. about 800,000 punjabis in canada, etc.
    And the govt of australia or canada do not leave areas where punjabis or chinese live without development. Once they become citizen, they are not called outsiders. Punjabis and Chinese have not shed as much blood protecting canada and australia, as gorkhas have protecting indian borders, and that includes protecting you. never heard of west bengal regiment, and you call gorkhas aliens tch tch…

    Anyway, forget about the gorkhas, just focus on saving youself from your bangladeshi bhaijaans.

  9. Heard of Bengal Sappers, A##hole? I have never heard of any Gorkha being Chief of Army. Whereas you will find huge number of Bengalis as senior officers in the armed forces. Number of Bengalis in Navy and Air Force is several times more than Gorkhas.

    By the way go to cellular jail in Andaman and Nicobar and you will find more than 90% of the names are Bengali, followed by Punjabis and other communities. I didn’t find any Nepali/Gorkha name there. The British used the Gorkha mercenaries to enslave Indians. Remember Jallianwala Bagh, u fukin’ traitors/mercenaries. You are shedding blood precisely 4 the same reason u were doing so 4 the Brits, that is 4 money. If u don’t join the armed forces of India or UK, u will die out of starvation in that shit country of yours. So cut the crap of being patriotic. U know u can’t go back 2 ur shit country so carve out a state 4 yourself in India.

    U guys r also known to murder old people who trust u and employ u as domestic help.

    People who are asking 4 separation from Bengal r u Nepali foreigners. The Brits underestimated us and got a kick on their ass, the same will happen to u and ur junglee community in India.

  10. warhammer,
    u m*f*king piece of shit, dont go too loose with the only part of ur body that works, ur tongue. the problem with yous is that yous talk too much, through ur arses. So what u say does not make sense, only smells- obnoxious. So stop crapping through ur mouth u D***Head.
    The reason why we have so many men in the army but not many officers is exactly why we demand for Gorkhaland. We realize that letting fuck heads like you govern us will not take us anywhere. we can only depend on ourselves for our upliftment.
    In anglo-nepalese war, british occupied parts of nepal which have been included in indian union. you call the local population outsiders?
    we are asking for separation from bengal not from india. this demand is very much in the perview of constitution. the demand is a justified one. that land was never yours. what is your problem shit brain?

    once again, if u do not keep ur crappy mouth shut, and stop fucking around, sooner than later, entire north east will rise and fuck you through ur nose and set your mind right. as u said we got nothing better to do but fight. what about u?

  11. Doom Hammer,

    Fukin moron, uneducated monkey boy I think u 2 suffer from learning disability like ur entire stinking community. U need IQ and officer like qualities to be an officer, which clearly u all lack. The fact that u r backward is bcoz u can’t pass any fukin exams. Bloody incompetents. How will a separate state help u pass exams?People who r violent by nature have low IQ and like animals have to be led by superior beings.
    Darjeeling and all those areas claimed by u guys never belonged to Nepalis. Darjeeling is part of Bengal and Bengal is 4 Bengalis. U came frm Nepal as coolies and labourers. That’s the nature of ur race. U cant develop any further. If u feel there is no future 4 u in Bengal then fuk off and go 2 Nepal a##holes. Leave Bengal. If u have any little bit of intelligence don’t repeat what happened 2 u in Bhutan.

    I don’t give a rat’s ass about entire NE I am only interested in Bengal and Bengalis.

    If u can fight then u need 2 produce real leaders not that truck driver who is ur leader.

  12. Warhammer,
    You fuckin conceited fool. you racist shit-brain, stop crapping with your mouth. the problem with you people is that you talk too much. you only fuck with your mouths, or should i say sucking is the only fucking you do.
    the area demanded in gorkhaland map should never be part of bangal. u r the ones like britishers not the gorkhali mountain-men. just bcoz u came in frm bangladesh does not mean that all gorkhas have come from nepal. u people have fucked up the demography of entire NE and reduced the indegeneous people to minority. so u fuckin mend ur ways or we will take ur arse.

  13. The age old treaty wid Nepal shd be scrapped..All borders (except one), as per the International Law, be given..All Nepaleese citizens in India shd be sent back..Visa system be imposed upon them. Soon Nepal is going to be a State of China, anyways..They, alongwith, Bangladeshis r a menace to the Indian society. When we have so many poor people in India, why do we need the laborers from Nepal and other countries. The Indian govt shd first think abt its own citizens (legit Indian citizens) and then abt the citizens of other friendly nations..Gorkhaland will def end up being an infiltration land for the Nepaleese and Chineese..
    U ppl cry over equality in India, and wht abt equality for the Nepaleese of Indian origin, residing in Nepal..Hv u seen thr condition in Nepal?? till date thy r treated like outsiders n foreigners..(sum hv been living in Nepal for the past 200 years)..i wonder how many of u hv bin in India for that long..
    PS: I have nothing against legit Indian Gorkhas, but if Indian Gorkhas want to be treated equally, u ppl shd start treating India like ur own country 1st..Prashant Tamag, after winning Indian Idol, in his album, sang a song, praising Nepal.blooody traitor..do think abt my Indian brothers (Indian Gorkhas)..Jai Hind

  14. Indian, on January 19th, 2009 at 10:04 am,

    1. When have gurkhas ever been menace to India? i have heard about bangladeshi terrorist, but not heard of gurkha terrorist; have heard of ISI affiliated mafia but no gurkha mafia; or gurkha beggar menace, or anything… The only think you could accuse gurkhas is of being poor and being patriots.

    And, why do you treat gurkhas as aliens? gurkhas more than any other nationality are like Indians. We are made of indo-aryan and sino-tibetean tribes, but culturally so very similar to uttaranchalis and himanchalis… like… indians. One of our greatest heroes Kunwar Bal Bhadra, after the war was over with Britishers, went to fight for Maharaja Ranjit Singh against the (enemy of our religion) Afghanis and died for the cause. Bappa Rawal, the first gurkha, on his teacher’s (Guru Gorakhnathji) command, went to fight off the invaders of our hindu/sanatan religion and defeated our enemies so decisively that there was no invasion for next 600 to 700 years. etc. etc….

    2. Your point about Nepalese of Indian origin falls flat on its face with ascension of Dr Yadav as Nepalese President.

    3. I have not heard about prashant tamang’s song praising nepal. Butt was it at the expense of india? if not then, how is he a traitor? is an american who says india is a great country and i love india a traitor to his country or vice-versa? Unless there is a clash of interest, there is no question of anyone being a traitor, just as jai maharastra or jai bangla does not mean “traitor”. Also, i would think that he could be singing a song in a professional capacity not personal capacity. but then i have not heard the song.

    4. closing open border is something that needs careful thinking not capricious whim. let us not forget that the agreement was infact insisted on by nehruji on nepal because we wanted to have more influence on our neighbors. (Indias population is 110 crore and nepal 2 crore). the new nepalese gov are also wanting to negotiate all the terms of friendship treaty. but i m not sure what shud be done, have not thought about it so deeply.
    i do think if ISI or other terrorists use nepal as a base, close the borders. otherwise keep it open, else china will become very dominant in our immediate neighborhood.

    My Indian brother, we share destinies together. India prospers, we gurkhas will prosper and so our lot is cast with yours. Let us work together to make this country strong and prosperous. let us not bicker on petty things.
    in past the province of bengal had been divided to etch out bihar, up, assam, etc. so why not gorkhaland? y discrimination against gurkhas?

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